By Kent · Lock Depot Staff Writer

The Problem: Worn Trim on a Pair of Doors That Has to Match

You've got a pair of commercial doors that have been open and shut a few thousand times too many. The push side is scarred up, the pull handles are loose in their mounting holes, and somebody on the maintenance crew wants new plates ordered before the property walkthrough. That's a simple job until you remember it's a pair. Order the wrong width, get the cutout in the wrong spot, or size the two doors differently, and you end up with trim that doesn't read as a set. Customers notice mismatched hardware on a double door faster than almost anything else on the frame.

This is the sizing question I get most on pull plates: what size do I order, where does the cutout land, and how do I keep both leaves looking the same when I'm done.

What You're Actually Ordering

The Ives 8302-6 pull plate is a standard architectural door trim plate built for swinging doors. It comes in 3.5x15" (89x381mm), and that's the confirmed size, not one option among several on this listing. The pull is mounted at a 6" center-to-center (CTC) spacing, which is the number you match against whatever pull you're replacing before you order.

The cutout on this plate is 2 inches from the top and centered on plates up to 4 inches wide, so on a 3.5" wide plate like this one, the cutout sits centered side to side and 2" down from the top edge. Where the plate needs a cylinder or thumbturn cutout, the standard sizes are 1-1/4" for a cylinder and 3/8" for a thumbturn. If your door calls for a different cutout than that, don't guess. Call it in and get the cut sheet before you order.

This plate ships in bright brass under the SKU above, and the same 3.5x15" size is also available in satin brass, satin bronze, oil rubbed bronze, satin nickel, and bright chrome, all under the same 8302-6 numbering with the finish code swapped in. If you're matching existing hardware on the building, check the finish against what's already on the frame before you commit, not after the box shows up.

Sizing a Pair of Doors So They Match

On a single door, sizing a pull plate is mostly about clearance. On a pair, it's about consistency, and that's where a lot of reorders go sideways. Two rules to work from:

• Match the plate height and CTC on both leaves. If the active leaf gets an 8302-6 mounted at a certain height off the floor, the inactive leaf needs the same height and the same 6" CTC pull spacing. A half inch of difference between the two doesn't look like a half inch from ten feet away, it looks like someone didn't measure.
• Check what's already on the door before you drill. The 2" from top, centered cutout works fine on a clean door face, but a lot of doors in the field already have a mortise lock, a deadbolt, or a closer arm sitting somewhere in that same general area. Hold the plate up to the door and mark it before you cut. A pull plate that lands its cutout right where the closer arm swings, or too close to an existing lock cylinder, is a plate you're pulling back off the door.

If the pair has different existing hardware on each leaf, resolve that first, then order the same plate for both. Ordering one 8302-6 for the active leaf and something else for the inactive leaf because "it's just the dummy door" is exactly how you end up with a mismatched pair.

Pairing a Pull Plate With a Push Plate

Not every door needs a lockset doing the work. On lightly trafficked interior doors, or anywhere you just need a wear plate to keep hands and cart corners off the finish, the standard setup is a pull plate on one face and a push plate on the other. For that pairing, the Ives 8200 push plate in the same 3.5x15" size is the natural match: push plate on the inside face where someone shoulders the door open, pull plate on the outside where someone needs a grip to bring it toward them.

Keep the same sizing discipline here that you'd use on a pair of doors. Same plate height on both faces of the same door, and check that the push plate's mounting doesn't land over a kick plate edge or door light if the door has one. The 8200 in this listing is satin nickel, so if you're matching finishes across a push/pull set, order the 8302-6 in the satin nickel finish (US15) rather than mixing brass and nickel on the same door.

Browse the full Ives hardware line for other trim and protection plate sizes, or see how the Ives 700 continuous hinge solves the other half of a door that's failing from heavy use.

Common questions

What size is the Ives 8302-6 pull plate?

It's 3.5x15" (89x381mm), with the pull mounted at a 6" center-to-center spacing. That's the confirmed size on this listing, not a range.

Where does the cutout go on the plate?

Standard cutout is 2 inches from the top of the plate and centered side to side on plates up to 4 inches wide. Cylinder cutouts run 1-1/4" and thumbturn cutouts run 3/8". If your door needs something outside those numbers, get the cut sheet rather than guessing.

Can I order matching plates in a different finish?

Yes. This size is also available in satin brass, satin bronze, oil rubbed bronze, satin nickel, and bright chrome under the same 8302-6 numbering with the finish code changed. Match it to what's already on the building, or to the push plate finish if you're running a push/pull set.

Do I need a lockset with this plate, or can it be push/pull only?

You can run it either way. On doors where a lock or latch is doing the securing, the pull plate is just trim. On lighter-duty interior doors, a straight push plate and pull plate pairing, like the 8302-6 with the Ives 8200, works fine on its own as a wear plate without any locking hardware involved.